tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3808227584959676379.post8233448793768612056..comments2023-06-28T07:56:10.910-04:00Comments on In Progress: The Top Ten Definitions of God - 6Peter H of Lebohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03960259139631190172noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3808227584959676379.post-70137796610674093852013-03-06T17:45:25.794-05:002013-03-06T17:45:25.794-05:00Precisely!
(You know Heidegger too well. Both hi...Precisely! <br /><br />(You know Heidegger too well. Both his writings and the huge stir and interpretations he has caused. With Heidegger, I'm reminded of the scene in <i>The Devil Wears Prada</i> where Miranda Priestly/Meryl Streep goes off on why you picked out that precise shade of blue sweater at Sears. I'm sure I'm wrong on the details. But the point is that no one pays attention to the original designer, but the repercussions are throughout society without us realizing it.)James Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871338738388893364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3808227584959676379.post-66990285125028761272013-03-06T17:15:59.884-05:002013-03-06T17:15:59.884-05:00It would be interesting to explore further where H...It would be interesting to explore further where Heidegger is going with the abandonment of God as causa sui. But, according to Hans Jonas, Heidegger subordinates God to Being and effectively turns God into a being. My professor, William Richardson, and also a Jesuit (another Fordham philosopher), on the other hand, claimed that Heidegger wants "to guard against the radical transcenence of God whose voice comes not out of Being but breaks into the kingdom of Being from without." The problem is, if God is outside Being but simply allows Himself to enter Being in order to be present to Dasein, that means he most fundamentally is not. Or, put another way, there is no God. Big Mykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09488250533536442903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3808227584959676379.post-59533119060014393022013-03-06T13:26:49.604-05:002013-03-06T13:26:49.604-05:00First of all, you give a pretty good expression of...First of all, you give a pretty good expression of Heidegger's views on being—in a paragraph! Of course there is much, much more, but I have tried, because of space and interest, to keep all of this philosophically and theologically lite—probably with limited success. Hopefully everyone understands, the difference between "a being" and "being" or existence itself. You mention the distinction in a comment to the St. Anselm's definition of <i>God</i>. I have been giving subtle hints, as in apostatizing "a being" from how we think of <i>God</i>. <br /><br />If you think I am invoking Heidegger in some sort of resonance with Ulanowicz's or St. Paul's definition, then you are being too kind in your comment. One of the few things we can definitely say about Heidegger is that Being, for him, is not <i>God</i>. While your professor, Richardson, uses a similar metaphor as Bob Ulanowicz is using—coming vs. calling—I give him the benefit of the doubt that he is describing <i>God</i> as the calling, not as a being. As I say in the post I see no reason why we should infer that this <i>God</i> is a being. But I hope I did not give any indication that this definition is in any way related to Heidegger's thinking. <br /><br />Your problem of using <i>God</i> as the answer to the question "why is there something rather than nothing" <b>is the whole point of invoking Heidegger!</b> I'm not introducing Heidegger to discuss being, as much as I would like, but to introduce the huge problem in positing a <i>God</i> who, as you say pulls itself into being. Heidegger uses the latin <i>causa sui</i>. From "Identity and Difference", he states, "Before the causa sui man can neither fall to his knees nor sing and dance. . . . <br />Therefore, the god-less thinking which must abandon the God of philosophy, God as causa sui, is perhaps closer to the divine God."<br /><br />I'm only referencing Heidegger to call suspicion on this definition and to anticipate the next one. (For not being a theologian Heidegger strangely influenced just about all western theologians who followed him.)James Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871338738388893364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3808227584959676379.post-89058924935430923092013-03-06T11:11:01.092-05:002013-03-06T11:11:01.092-05:00Defining God as that which calls existence into be...Defining God as that which calls existence into being has some resonance with Heidegger (although he would deny it). Heidegger distinguishes "sein" (translated as Being with a capitol B) from "seiendes" (individual beings or entities). Although he's pretty caging about what Being is, he says that Being is not something like a being. It's what "determines beings as beings." It's the condition that allows a being to be. My Heidegger professor said that you might think of Being as the process by which entities come into being. Heidegger also talked about Being as the event of the manifestation of beings, the clearing which permits beings to be manifest. While Heidegger adamently rejected any noting that his Being was God, it's a tempting notion.<br /><br />But the problem of using God as the answer to the question "why is there something rather than nothing," simply kicks the question down the road. If God is something, why does God exist? (Science has the same problem, by the way. You can try to explain the universe popping into existence by quantum theory or some other scientific principle, but scientific laws are things, too -- how did they come into being?)<br /><br />Anyway, here is Jim Holt's account of his inquiry into this question:<br /><br />So I called a professor of philosophical theology at the University of Virginia. I asked him if the fact that there was something rather than nothing could be explained by invoking a deity whose essence entailed his existence. "Are you kidding?" he said "God is so perfect He doesn't have to exist."<br /><br />Then on the street in Greenwich Village, I ran into a Zen Buddhist scholar who had been introduced to me once at a cocktail party as an authority on mystical matters. After a little chitchat, I asked him -- perhaps, in retrospect, a bit precipitately -- why there is something rather than nothing. He tried to bop me on the head. He must have thought it was a Zen koan.<br /><br />Finally, I rung up a philosopher at Columbia, about the deepest intellect I know. I said I was at the end of an essay about a metaphysical question and the waters were fast rising up around me. When I told him the question, his response was vehement and almost churlish: "Who says there is not nothing?" Big Mykhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09488250533536442903noreply@blogger.com